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cheat-master30
17th April 2007, 11:29 AM
Now, the following idea is not something to be actually taken seriously, unless you are one of those die hard fans who try all the ridiculous ideas in the world, and who have a lot of time on your hand (hint, people who make their own metal Master Sword or Wind Waker scroll), and I must admit I semi fall into this category with this site, board games and every project I made having a basis heavily on a gaming series. Never the less, here is why, Paper Mario 2 is not Mario, with how it could, if the references to Mario were largely removed, be turned into a very serious and realistic novel or film.

Now, to get this point, you would have to remove Mario, Peach and Bowser, because in most fact, those are the only real characters (and Bowser's army) that scream Mushroom Kingdom to any normal bystander, andd without them, and a replacement for Peach, it would immediately take a more serious tone. Sadly, because of the pivotal role of Yoshi in this game, we cannot change/remove/alter Yoshi, as otherwise there would be no way to defeat/pass the Iron Harriers in the Glitz Pit, simply because there is no sane, logical way to beat something with infinite defence in logical means. For anyone who actually tried this (and I recommend NOT to), this would be the one thing that would still remind you of it being a Mario game story at the end, because there is nothing else that uses Yoshi like a Nintendo game does (and because very few creatures can eat a solid metal, spiked, infinite defence thing and throw it at a near identical version next to it). You would also have to either change the other characters to somewhat more human or somewhat other non Mario species. Which in 98% of remaining cases, would likely be extremely easy, as very few of them are the typical Mario characters that have been in the platformers.

Storyline wise, this is not much of a typical Mario story in the first place, except in the game with the inclusion of Mario, Peach and Bowser in the story. Seriously, the first real chapter, with the exploration, castle and dragon could go into any medieval related film, as most of the things there could easily be adapted to any scenario. The second one is not really Mario, or anything else, and the army related fighting is certainly not the norm (this reminded me of Pikmin for some reason more than Mario, just fighting large armies of small creatures with more creatures, and larger enemies attacking them). Chapter 3 could easily be in a more realisticly based film or novel, because it is partly based on arena fighting, and largely a mystery story, neither of which are usual Mario concepts. Someone could easily adapt this to just about any setting from Medieval to futuristic whatsoever. Hell, you could have a medieval film or Mario game here, or a modern Mario game or film, or even a many thousands of years in front film or Mario game here, as the characters act in a very non typical way. Chapter 4 is also not really a very typical Mario chapter, as the idea of pigs and shape shifters could easily be adapted for any kind of horror film or such, and even without any changes, the typical human characters, and Doopliss to an extent, and the bats and such could easily fit in a totally different, non Mario series related film, novel or game. Chapter 5 is cool, but while this is a little more Mario related, you could easily adapt it as an almost Indiana Jones style pirate adventure film or novel extremely easily, as the caves and exploration do seem to have a more gritty and semi realistic tone that past such levels set on islands and in caves.

cheat-master30
17th April 2007, 11:36 AM
Chapter 6 is also, character species and Mario aside, not such the usual, and it would be extremely easy to adapt, being how most of the mysteries do have semi realistic solutions and situations, not really being as far out and detached from reality as some Mario games. Heck, if this was not in a Mario game, I would probably think it was some semi realistic detective film at first (except the Smorg bit).

Chapter 7 could be changed to something with a darker tone just by making the imagery look more serious, because the idea of invading the X Naut moonbase is very much similar to scenarios involving going to villain's hideouts in other media, and the area of Fahr Outpost is much like ideas of the Cold War period, with all the secrecy and stern attitudes.

Finally, Chapter 8 is simply the final area, and is pretty much something that could fit anywhere, with the fact there are more dragons, evil from Grodus and the revival of the Shadow Queen giving this a more dark tone. Heck, this story in general, of all chapters is likely the first or second darkest story in a Mario game, with the other being Mario and Luigi Partners in Time.

But what would you get if you adapted it to a more realistic circumstance? Easy, proof that this story is the darkest, more despair filled one that the Mario series as ever had, and the fact it can be adapted to a realistic circumstances proves for once that Paper Mario 2 does indeed cover some deep, emotional and really big issues about not only the Mario series before, but also about various more real life things, and also shows how well written the storyline was by Intelligent Systems.

cheat-master30
18th April 2007, 12:04 AM
Any comments by anyone?

NintenDan
18th April 2007, 09:33 AM
Interesting concept.

cheat-master30
18th April 2007, 09:45 PM
My, it's a little sad that more people think of social topics that commenting on this one...

Symerwizkid22
18th April 2007, 10:14 PM
i really wish i din't miss out on the gamecube era:(
i'm a handheld gamer tho... now that the graphics are 3d that's all i care about since i really don't care about all that HD, 1080i, etc... crap:)

so yeah... ds all the way 4ever:)... well maybe not foreverEzlo}

cheat-master30
18th April 2007, 10:15 PM
You really missed out by not having a Gamecube if that's what you mean, as some games for it were classic, like this one. But please next time reply to the actual topic matter?

Symerwizkid22
18th April 2007, 10:19 PM
yes... just stating how sad i am to have to not be a part of any gamecube topics because i didn't own one.
:(