Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass

[caprontos]

I read that the four sword game for DS was truned in to this.. so the Four sword was canceld.... anyone else read that or hear that.. i've been looking for where I read it but I can't seem to find it

[benoit489]

I haven't heard that.

[cheat-master30]

Me neither. Would be likely though.

[benoit489]

Kind of odd, seems like the DS would be their best bet to have a succesful Four Swords game because of WiFi and the large user-base.

[cheat-master30]

Yeah. I think it may eventually happen though. Imagine teaming up with different random people for each level, or for all the story, or with friends! That would be many neat options and ways to play.

[caprontos]

Well Gamfaqs has its relese date TBA... and I agree Four swords should be on the DS with Wifi support

[cheat-master30]

True. It would also be cool if a proper 3D Legend of Zelda game was on the DS as well (more like that Nintendo 64 and Gamecube Legend of Zelda games).

[caprontos]

they could make a MM master quest...
and they can port OoT like they did with mario brothers and add a bunch of stuff

[cheat-master30]

Majoras Mask would be better than Ocarina of Time for the DS, if only because Ocarina of Time has been ported so many times it's gotten kind of old. Wonder if the same happens to Super Mario 64 soon?

[caprontos]

but nintendo would prolly do OoT because people like that game more an some would say its the best Zelda ever others the best game ever.. (I'm not one of those people btw)

I would like to see MM with new sidequest and mask maybe a new dungeon?

[cheat-master30]

I would like to as I have never played that game before. Seriously, I would like to play that, Paper Mario for the Nintendo 64, Super Mario RPG and maybe another game or two like A Link to the Past. Oh well, there is the virtual console.

[caprontos]

I would like to as I have never played that game before. Seriously, I would like to play that, Paper Mario for the Nintendo 64, Super Mario RPG and maybe another game or two like A Link to the Past. Oh well, there is the virtual console.
you never played MM... you should you can prolly still buy it at an EB or gamestop...

[cheat-master30]

I don't want a Nintendo 64 version as I don't have that any more (or it is all unplugged). Maybe I'll get it for the Virtual Console.

[caprontos]

well if you can find the Collecters disk you can play MM on gamecube

[cheat-master30]

Maybe. Oh, and maybe post in some other topics?

P.S. What Legend of Zelda game do you think should be re-made, or what type of new one would work on the DS?

[benoit489]

I would want a Link's Awakening remake in 3d. That game would be awesome.

[cheat-master30]

It would be. You do know someone on Gamefaqs I think has been created 3D rendered art of various parts of that game, right? Look it up on the board if you want to see for yourself.

[caprontos]

Maybe. Oh, and maybe post in some other topics?

P.S. What Legend of Zelda game do you think should be re-made, or what type of new one would work on the DS?

I'd like them to re-make Seasons and ages and give them minish cap or AlttP graphics either is fine... and make the third game that was for Force ( the third goddes form OoT) and would have been green... and add in more secrets because theres now three games to work with.. the technology for the DS has to be good enough to do that now...

[cheat-master30]

It must be. The idea though of releasing the third game sounds good, the only problem is that I do not know how many people will be inspired to buy two exact re-makes and one new game just for some secrets. Most would just buy the new game.

[benoit489]

It would be. You do know someone on Gamefaqs I think has been created 3D rendered art of various parts of that game, right? Look it up on the board if you want to see for yourself.

That's what made me interested in a new one. I'm not sure about having it in full 3D though. Maybe if they used the engine for OoT on the DS that would be cool.

[cheat-master30]

Maybe. It would be interesting to say the very least. Wasn't that the game with many Mario enemies as well in the game, such as Chain Chomps, Goombas and Piranha Plants?

[benoit489]

Maybe. It would be interesting to say the very least. Wasn't that the game with many Mario enemies as well in the game, such as Chain Chomps, Goombas and Piranha Plants?

Chain Chomp wasn't really an enemy, it actually helped for the earlier part of the game. Kirbys were also in the game. So was a Yoshi doll. I think there were others too but I can't remember. I need to get a working one again. The DX version was even better, it had color to it and an extra dungeon. The option of different suits was also pretty cool, blue giving you higher defense and red giving you higher attack. The bosses were also fun. I would suggest getting it, you can find it on Ebay for anywhere from $8 to $13.

[cheat-master30]

I know, I just said that because of confusion with another game. Oh, and nice. Wasn't there also a picture of Princess Peach, a frog like Wart and some other guy from Sim City on the NES/SNES or whatever?

[caprontos]

Maybe. It would be interesting to say the very least. Wasn't that the game with many Mario enemies as well in the game, such as Chain Chomps, Goombas and Piranha Plants?

that was links awakinging.. seasons I don't think had any...

Chain Chomp wasn't really an enemy, it actually helped for the earlier part of the game. Kirbys were also in the game. So was a Yoshi doll. I think there were others too but I can't remember. I need to get a working one again. The DX version was even better, it had color to it and an extra dungeon. The option of different suits was also pretty cool, blue giving you higher defense and red giving you higher attack. The bosses were also fun. I would suggest getting it, you can find it on Ebay for anywhere from $8 to $13.

Chain chomps were enimies in ALttP.

I know, I just said that because of confusion with another game. Oh, and nice. Wasn't there also a picture of Princess Peach, a frog like Wart and some other guy from Sim City on the NES/SNES or whatever?

yes in links awaking ther were all those things... ecept I'm not sure who you mean for the simcity thing....

Bowser was in sim city on the SNES

[cheat-master30]

Some guy from Sim City was in that game? The name escapes me though.

[caprontos]

I have no clue.... do no what he looked like maybe?

[caprontos]

there were:
gombashttp://www.zeldalegends.net/gallery/categories/Links_Awakening/Sprites/Links_Awakening_DX/Enemies/media/Goomba.gif

paraprana (Idk the flower monster in the pipes) http://www.zeldalegends.net/gallery/categories/Links_Awakening/Sprites/Links_Awakening/Enemies/media/PirahnaPlant.gif

kirbys

Cheep-Sheephttp://www.zeldalegends.net/gallery/categories/Links_Awakening/Sprites/Links_Awakening/Enemies/media/CheepCheep.gif


yoshii doll

picture on Priness toodstole

bo-bombshttp://www.zeldalegends.net/gallery/categories/Links_Awakening/Sprites/Links_Awakening_DX/Enemies/media/Bombite.gif

[caprontos]

chain-chomps http://www.zeldalegends.net/gallery/categories/Links_Awakening/Sprites/Links_Awakening_DX/Enemies/media/BowWow_moving.gif

is this Sea Urchin from mario http://www.zeldalegends.net/gallery/categories/Links_Awakening/Sprites/Links_Awakening/Enemies/media/SeaUrchin.gif

[cheat-master30]

I think that spiky thing appeared in Super Mario Land 2 Turtle Zone. I remember it from the submarine level.

[caprontos]

theres prolly more stuff from mario those were all i could remmber... and all the sprites I could find =)

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, you forgot the Yoshi doll sprite.

[cheat-master30]

Or these (from Nintendo Database):

http://nindb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/dmg/images/cam/zl_2b.jpg

Princess Peach

http://nindb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/dmg/images/cam/zl_8g.gif

Shy Guy

[caprontos]

howed I miss the shy guy? wow.. oops.. I no about the yoshii doll I can get a sprite

[cheat-master30]

All those Mario and NES/SNES game references in there... It sure was an odd dream...

[caprontos]

you still can't remeber who was in the game from simcity.. maybe I'll check the faqs at game faqs an try and find it..

[cheat-master30]

It was Mr. Write according to an online cameos website.

[caprontos]

whats the link to that site? i want to see something..

[cheat-master30]

http://nindb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/

That was it.

[caprontos]

ok i found what i wanted to find thanks

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, that's okay.

[caprontos]

I wanted to see this:

http://nindb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/sns/images/cam/arw_1a.jpg

link in SMRPG

and this:

http://nindb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/sns/images/cam/arw_3a.jpg


Samus in SMRPG

[cheat-master30]

Oh, that's cool! Now I know what people meant by Samus and Link being in Super Mario RPG.

[caprontos]

right :) an sorry for remote loading

[cheat-master30]

That's okay. Everyone makes that mistake. The reason it is bad is because people pay for bandwidth, and remote loading uses images from another website and hence uses their bandwidth while people view your page. This can crash a small website if you are running a large fan site or forum.

[caprontos]

well I could have "stolen" them but links work just as well and its less work for me

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, and it is more legal to just link to them rather than remote load them and way more legal than to copy them to a free image hosting account.

[caprontos]

yep I never could found any ideas for these smiles :

:confused: ;) :rolleyes: :o

saddly

[cheat-master30]

Do not worry, as you are not the only person planning to design smilies for this website.

[caprontos]

nintendan is working on them to

[cheat-master30]

Exactly.

Post limit..

[caprontos]

what exactly is the story of Pantom Hourglass.. if anyone knows.. it might even have been posted here (or its on the main site..).. but

I read it revolves around one big dungeon and you have to collect items from smaller dugeons to make it further in the big dungeon

[caprontos]

I also read that the game revolves around a huge dungeon, as well as a series of smaller ones, and you get items from the smaller ones (and the like from beating bosses and puzzles) and then use them to unlock parts of the larger, more main dungeon. I also heard that there are enemies which chase you around the larger one and can instantly defeat the player.

from the main site :)

[cheat-master30]

Not sure about the story. It most likely involves Ganon or Vaati, but maybe a new villain is involved?

[caprontos]

I'm going to guess something new as Ganon was turned to Stone at the end of WW.. and idk if they'll make him come back so soon..

[cheat-master30]

It's possible though. Nintendo seems to always bring back old foes. Note how in Twilight Princess I heard Ganon was the final boss, even though people were kind of told otherwise before and how many times Bowser has been re-used in the Mario series even after who knows how many deatha by lava, heights, explosives etc.

[caprontos]

thats true but PH is right after WW so Idk.. it just would seem to soon.. but Idk

[cheat-master30]

Who knows. Only Nintendo really.

[caprontos]

true

post limti oh fun...

[cheat-master30]

I am personally extremely keen to know what the game is actually like, and how the items use the touch screen. In fact, I am more interested in things such as how the touch screen and dual screen features may be used for dungeon puzzles and the ways you defeat bosses in this game.

[caprontos]

and if its true and it will invole Touch screen controls only that will make it quite a diffrent expriance then past Zelda games

[cheat-master30]

I hope so. I can already picture how much better drawing the path of the boomerang is than using a control pad or control stick. Plus, you can write notes on the map or something!

[caprontos]

yes but I do think they should add in the option to use reguler controls for moving and attacking...

[cheat-master30]

True, as I am not a fan of being forced to use gimmick style controls if they do not make the game experience better.

[caprontos]

very true.. i didn't like the touch screen controls for Mario64 on the DS..

[cheat-master30]

That's why I, and many of those who went to the Super Mario 64 DS Board on Gamefaqs preferred and still prefer the standard control scheme.

[caprontos]

oks I'm gonna go to gamefaqs now and see if I'm still loged in..

[cheat-master30]

Probably not by now.

[caprontos]

I was I have 167 karma now and I'm a vetren.. odd concdering I rarly use the site..

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, quite odd if you ask me.

[caprontos]

I stay loged in for 60days at a time.. but I think I'm logged in here forever..

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, and I am always logged in to this forum pretty much all the time.

[caprontos]

thats true.

Has nintendo said anything new about this game that you know of?

[cheat-master30]

Not as far as I know. Or that magazines seem to know.

[caprontos]

well i guess eventuly once its closer to be done they will relese more about the game

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, like show some pictures of the enemies, the bosses and more of the dungeons, what people might want to actually see.

[caprontos]

yep that will be be nice.. when they do... as you already know the Zelda serise is my faovrite.. but I'm not a fanboy..

[cheat-master30]

I would like to see all these things as the dungeons are some of the most important parts of the Legend of Zelda series games, and they need to be seen.

[caprontos]

it is odd that they havn't said much about it..

random:
is E3 gone now?
**

[cheat-master30]

I have heard E3 is no more though.

[caprontos]

thats sad

...post limit...
is this post limit not changable?

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, but it does encourage longer posts sometimes.

[caprontos]

yea true witch might be a better idea.. because post thats say just "k" or "yea" would prolly be annoying.. Idk how often they'd be posted thou I've seen it on other forums thou..

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, as many other forums say stuff that short. And 'bump'

[caprontos]

but forums like gamefaqs I understand it because the topic would be deleted if they didn't.

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, but only because of the purge. Most forums don't have that though, so bump is not necessary.

[caprontos]

yep true... I need to finish my third version of mygame soon.. i was suppose to by now.. I just don't feel like wring any GML for the movment of a few new sprites.. maybe tommrow I'll feel more up to it...

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, maybe tommorow you will. I need to complete the tasks I set myself yesterday personally.

[caprontos]

yea I think i will wait till Nintendan tells me if he is happy with the goron sprites he made if so i'll add them then relese my game

[cheat-master30]

Okay, and then I can link to it from the website, correct?

[caprontos]

of coruse I'll post the link in my topic to so when i post it thats when its on my site...

in HTML can you set it up so it counts the number of hits (or downloads) ?

[cheat-master30]

No. Not without a server side language, and Sitesled does not offer those.

[caprontos]

oks thats to bad. I was just wondering.

since I join this one forum I actully had some people visted to my site.. thou no have given me anything new to add.

[cheat-master30]

That does not surprise me

[caprontos]

yea... but some people have said they would.. so i'm waiting on them

[cheat-master30]

So keep waiting then, even though such stuff likely does not come.

[caprontos]

thats alittle mean.... but I can't blame them would you wanna type up a story on the computer.. it could take hours if its a long one. poems thou Idk.. I'll wait. if I don't get any thats alright..

[cheat-master30]

I typed up a six page essay a few times on the computer, besides other things.

[caprontos]

but you had to do that for school right? or was that for your site?..

if they did it would be so i could add it to mysite and they don't get anything for it realy

[cheat-master30]

No, I did that for the sake of it:

http://dsultimate.net/Essays/PRBessay.htm

and again:

../../Essays/SSMTessay.htm (http://dsultimate.net/Board/upload/../../Essays/SSMTessay.htm)

[caprontos]

ok I see

we need more topics.. for more games.. i'm trying to think of more..

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, as the place seems to have gotten a bit inactive in just two days.

[caprontos]

thats true but eventuly it'll pick back up again

[cheat-master30]

Hopefully it will. And the place can go right the way back up to the glory of 60+ members again!

[caprontos]

eventuyl remmber this forum has been growing faster then the old one.

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, a 3rd of the member count or so already in a month! That's a third in one tenth of the time (the old forum only reached 6000 posts and 65 members in about 8-9 months!

[caprontos]

plus we got half the post the old forum had if it stays this active for 8-9 months it'll have (in theory) 24000 post with 168 members... but this is really unaccurate.. because more posters would mean more post obviously..

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, and way more members will mean way more posts. Unless they are all inactive members, and that would not be good.

[caprontos]

no it wouldn't be we need like 50 active members.

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, 50 active members with a forum like this would make a hugely active forum. 50 X 500 posts roughly would equal 20 000+ in about a month.

[caprontos]

thats true witch would be nice.

[cheat-master30]

I am not too worried though, as I am advertising and this is the quiet forum season it seems. Should have opened before Christmas in my opinion.

[caprontos]

yea maybe but it'll pick back up as people still do join and we have guest all the time.

[cheat-master30]

True that. Now we just need a ton to stay!

[caprontos]

thats true.

[cheat-master30]

Hopefully though, we will have many more active members as I am now seeking members over at Gamefaqs and other forums as well as hopefully getting affiliates.

[caprontos]

ok..

I had an artical (from a magazine) on this game i was gonna share what it said but I can't find it now..

[cheat-master30]

That's always the way. You can never find what you need at the right time.

[caprontos]

I know i have to many magziene I suppose I though i look throu them all.. but I must have missed one..

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, it's easy to have too many magazines.

[caprontos]

thats true I get them free for haveing a gamestop card (there gameinformer (I no not the best magazine but hey its free))

[cheat-master30]

I always get the official Nintendo magazine personally.

[caprontos]

yea but I would have to play for those I use to get them. if i find that article I'll write basicly what it says about the game.

[cheat-master30]

In your own words I hope? As this place does not tolerate plagiarism.

[Luis]

That`s one of the two Zelda games i`m missing. I have all the rest.

[benoit489]

Link's Awakening also had enemies that looked like Digletts from Pokemon.

[cheat-master30]

Cool! Got a picture of them for comparison reasons?

[caprontos]

In your own words I hope? As this place does not tolerate plagiarism.
of course.. if u think I'm writing out and inter article your crazy... I meant just like a summary of their summary

[caprontos]

Link's Awakening also had enemies that looked like Digletts from Pokemon.
Ihmm... I think i no what u mean that mole like monster in the castle where u get the 5 golden leaves?

[cheat-master30]

Oh. okay with the article then.

[caprontos]

http://bestiary.zeldalegends.net/index.php?game=z4&limit=1

I couldn't find the mole monster.. he's not in that (thats most LA eneimes)

[cheat-master30]

So many of them look like they are based on Mario enemies and Nintendo characters it is plain weird! Thwomps, Goombas, Piranha Plants, Pokeys, Boos, Chain Chomps and even what looks like a mini version of Fry Guy! Oh, and did you know the debug name for Big Boo's Haunt is Teresa House, and Boo is called Teresa in Japan?

[benoit489]

He's under there as Gel. When he hops, it looks a lot more like a diglett. I don't have a pic, but I know there are tons in the forest.

[cheat-master30]

Isn't a gel one of those slime based things from the original Legend of Zelda game though.

[caprontos]

He's under there as Gel. When he hops, it looks a lot more like a diglett. I don't have a pic, but I know there are tons in the forest.
ohh i see I was thinking the mole monster..

and Yes cheat the gel is from LoZ

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, and I remember that. There was a larger version that split into two smaller versions there.

[caprontos]

yep if u hit a big one with the wood sword (or flame?) i'd split into to tiny ones

[Symerwizkid22]

gels...
are they the red things in Link's Awakening that split into 2 smaller ones??

[cheat-master30]

I think those are probably Gels.

[Symerwizkid22]

I think those are probably Gels.

Yes, they were.
I looked back into my LINKS AWAKENING DX walkthrough... and I saw that they were called gels. You were right again:)

[cheat-master30]

True. Anyone notice how many Mario enemies were in that game?

[Symerwizkid22]

True. Anyone notice how many Mario enemies were in that game?

Yeah... and in Link's Awakening [DX] there were ven parts where it was 2D with goombas and those block dudes that go "arghARGGHGGHGHH". When you have rocs cape and can jump it feels like MArio in a Zelda game... creepy.
Ezlo}

[cheat-master30]

True, very true.

[Symerwizkid22]

Yeah, don;t get me wrong, Mario is sweeeet.
But in a Zelda game?
:(

[cheat-master30]

There was also an enemy called an Anti Kirby.

[Symerwizkid22]

There was also an enemy called an Anti Kirby.

In Link's Awakening?
It must have been at the end because I just got done with "Catfish's Maw."
It is cool how you get in that temple^^ [[diving underwater with flippers]]
Ezlo}

[cheat-master30]

All the dungeons I heard were relatively imaginative.

[Symerwizkid22]

All the dungeons I heard were relatively imaginative.

1/2.

haha Ezlo}

[cheat-master30]

Okay, but back to the point, do you really think the one hit kill enemies in the main dungeon of this game will be that annoying? Or so dumb you can dodge them easily?

[Symerwizkid22]

Okay, but back to the point, do you really think the one hit kill enemies in the main dungeon of this game will be that annoying? Or so dumb you can dodge them easily?

oh... you mean those "huge" enemies with the battle ram that kill you one hit??
they sound wicked annoying to me.

[cheat-master30]

That's what I mean.

[Symerwizkid22]

yeah... those enemies look queer.

the only time they'll kill you is if you're not paying attention and just exploring the dungeon and I have a feeling they will pi$$ me of... but I HAVE to get the game anyway since it is Zelda.

[cheat-master30]

I will still get it anyway. Besides, if it is like the Wind Waker, Light Arrows could probably blast them to pieces.

[Symerwizkid22]

Yes, but light arrows are usually found at the end of a game:(

[cheat-master30]

I know, but the satisfcation of destroying them all after that difficulty through out.

[Symerwizkid22]

yeah... i'd probably yell at my DSlite.. "how do you like it!"
"huh! ya light arrows biz-natch!"

haha i'm a toolArr:

[cheat-master30]

I wouldn't yell, but maybe secretly laugh at those enemies.

[Symerwizkid22]

hahahahaha.:)

[cheat-master30]

Yeah, in the typical evil laugh style! That Ganondorf knows so well...

[Symerwizkid22]

i want my bro to bring back the n64 from college.
he took it again.
and deleted my OoT save file where I beat Ganondorf + escape castle + ganon everyday because it's just that fun!:)

[cheat-master30]

Ouch, deleting a file that far in the game? And yes, many parts of that game are fun.

[Symerwizkid22]

ya... that's why i'm being super careful with my dslite and mario kart:)

[cheat-master30]

So no dropping it out windows then?

[Symerwizkid22]

yes... and since i bought mario kart ds used...i'll be extra careful.
it was a nice used deal tho.
30$ with manual and box... works like it's brand new..

is there any way in this game to see how long you've been playing... because i think i've put in a good 10 hourse today alone!*:)
Ezlo}

[cheat-master30]

Probably not I am afraid.

[Symerwizkid22]

yeah i couldn;t find ne.
mine in 1 1/2 days is prbly 10 hours already:(
haha tooooo fun of a game:)

[cheat-master30]

It's a great game, and I would say I had put in many hours completing it.

[Symerwizkid22]

yay 3 other people

[cheat-master30]

Whatever. Still, on topic to an extent,do you prefer 2D Legend of Zelda games or 3D ones?

[Symerwizkid22]

i like them both.
but 3d a little more.
:)

[cheat-master30]

Ah, sounds logical. I like them equally though.

[Symerwizkid22]

ya.... but naturally the 3D games are easier.:(

[cheat-master30]

Not sure, maybe something to do with the effect of 3D.

[Symerwizkid22]

probably since in 3d you can see to the games horizon, not just the end of the screen.

[cheat-master30]

Maybe. Maybe it's also that you can dodge using platforms and pits and all kinds of things, or maybe that there is less space in a 2D area.